Wednesday, October 28, 2009

God hates us all - part 2

Came here with a mindset to write a totally enjoyable post.. but after reading soin's thrash metal version.. am all charged up to write mine.. so soin had put the blame on the ancestors.. true it is their fault too.. but i had something different in mind already and i dont wanna change that.. so it shd be obvious that am gonna put the blame on god.. all this reservation started on the basis of caste.. caste means religion.. and all this religion stuff attributes to god.. if i had a time machine, i'll go to the time period to kill whichever stupid fuck got the idea of a supernatural power controlling everything.. this guy was the cause for every fuckin shit that is going on now.. this might not be a big problem in other countries.. but in a highly diverse country such as India, one god itself is tuf to handle.. a lot of gods.. gimme a break..so am basically against each and every religion in this fuckin world.. thats y the basic difference between people occurs..

and so ntpc came to our coll.. interviewed 10.. took the obvious 6 outta which one guy was a sc who mugged the about me column.. the worst part is that the about me for him was written by another guy.. totally unworthy idiot who is goin to be the fate of india's largest power sector company.. so rather than putting the blame directly on god.. i question all those "believers" whether is it appropriate to believe in god at times like these wen u feel god solely is responsible for all this utter chaos.. i cant call myself a perfect athiest even.. coz i may even be forced to believe in god in severe circumstances jus longing for a miracle to happen.. so even considering that am a theist it is instances such as now that force my comple mind to question his very existence..

18 comments:

Bharathi said...

Why do u hav to blame God. God never asked one to believe himself. he didnt even announced his existence. Its only people who created God.
There were few genuine people who said they felt God. Their other personality makes us to believe he may be right. We can leave those I think.
But those who interpretted the above person wrongly and those who want to install rituals for their own selfish needs based on the ignorance of the people are the cuplrits.
Even a furthur thought asks me not to blame them, instead I want to blame those people who encouraged culprits for their own selfish needs. here you need to consider every one are free to believe. so when they have freedom of choice, then we need to blame the ones who have chosen it.
do you understand what I mean?

Priya Vinay said...

i agree to one point - guys who originally started this caste and diversification crap based on supernatural power and stuff, would not have died a good death..
Their direct disciples are now sitting in India's largest old-age home at the centre and state and preventing every good from happening for small pieces of paper...


But there is no point in blaming god. He never did anything, its the people who keep misinterpreting everything...

soin said...

if the existence of god is ack as the two persons have done,then i blame him for letting it happen..and i dont agree with our anthrapologist classifying them as thrash metal.. i guess soft or fast metal might do justice..did god create us just so that he can have something to hate.if so will he hate himself..free

HaRy!! said...

not sure wat or who to support! as I dont believe in idol worship and only God as there might be a superpower who controls our deeds and us! But yeah if i happen to see that person yu mentioned..I'd kick his butt as well, as we the Diversed Indians will be the biggest scapegoats as we are vulnerable and sensitive to caste and religion!! oh yeah speak of the number of castes in each religion!! OMG!

Rachana Shakyawar said...

@ Vishnu

Everything that happens in this world, happens because of ome reason! Accept the happening and you will be glad latter to waht happend.
Learn from the moment and stop blaming others or youeself or anybody and accept the flow..



Indeed a nice thoughful post!
May you get all the happiness, wisdom, love and strength in life:)

Vishnu said...

@bharathi.. understood.. its those few pple who felt god.. and it is because of those few pple caste was created.. the point is there were lots of groups of few pple with different beliefs leading to different religions.. what am saying is that due to these beliefs pple started misinterpreting god and all such misinterpretations lead to the chaos right now.. so what i did in the post is i went back from the presnt chaos state..
every1 has freedom of choice and every1 has made their choices.. the point is one's choices shouldnt affect the others.. if u believe in god its fine with me.. but it shdnt hinder my upliftment..

u can check this post..
http://the-flux-influx.blogspot.com/2009/10/mantralaya-for-us-dwait-brahmins-of.html

@ priya.. my point is that the petrol doesnt catch fire as such.. there has to be an ignition.. the ignition here is god.. so i put the blame on him.. and we people jus add more petrol to the already started fire.. even u can check the above post i suggested... thanks for ur views..

@soin.. y did god create us is totally different.. maybe he is a sadist and finds pleasures in watching the world burn.. tht brings a question.. does god have emotions??

@ hary.. thanks for understanding my view.. india is a diverse country.. this diversity has its own pros and cons..

@rachana.. thanks for the wishes.. this post is jus a way of understanding god himself.. reading all such posts may change ur view about god too in the good ay or the bad way.. dont worry.. this all is jus a matter of discussion and ways of understanding this complex world..

evanescentthoughts said...

God has nothing to do with it, nor does religion has anything to do.. In the past, the caste system came into effect because of the roles people played.. some people were intelligent and educated and some people who were not intelligent enough did other blue collar jobs. and then people started treating those who were intelligent to be of a higher caste. Now we are reversing it. Intelligent people wont get seats to study and dumbos enjoy it.

evanescentthoughts said...

I had written a similar post on this. Read it here

japesh said...

I would like to comment on this if you dont mind...
so here goes...
How is the guy who got the idea of a supernatural power the cause of everything ?
so ...would you be so irrational as to say samuel colt was an idiot ? would you like to say nobel is the reason why there is so much destruction? or would you like to say otto warnburg was the reason hiroshima happend...
did'nt believe you;ll start the blame game your self...
after so much or rationality continually driven into you , you still talk kile the next street auto wala who thinks pakistan is responsible for our internal chaos
just because you have a strong feeling against something does not mean you put all rationality out of it...
you know
just like you some people had this STRONG feeling and did'nt put any rationality into what they were saying is why religion got so fucked up ...

@ your second para...
if there were special preferences for your caste would you still be complaining ?
its right to say they chose an idiot...but its very wrong to say they chose a sc candidate and he is supposed to be an idiot.
the reason that the world is so fucked up is because of us...
we did this shit, dont blame god(blaming him is easy coz you dont have an option of blaming anyone else...)
i may not be a theist or an atheist but just go and have a look around.... dont you feel certain things beyound your control ?
dont you feel awed at natures complex simplicity ?
when you are reaaly in need of something and you get it dont yu feel happy ?
was it controlled ?
now the point i am trying to make is i think you got confused with the true meaning of supernatural...
it could be the basic theory of probablity or random generation...but some things are best not understood...

vishal jindal said...

Vishnu..i was rather a bit shocked at such a naive view from such a rational person like u..must b out of frustration of that sc candidate or the quest for god itself...i don knw how did u relate all this thing to blame god but as today there so many gods, so many definitions of god, so many concepts of god, i don knw which god thing u r xactly pointing to...for that first guy thing...some voltaire once said- 'If there were no God, it would be necessary to invent him' ...well m not gonna debate this but i ll tell u somethin regarding this using simple mathematics in my later posts...as per reservation, this is more on social side than on religious..its just that stupids didn have enough vision that new souls would not b sensible enough to make sense out of it..so did the evil started in form of reservation s and sort..religion has probably proposed god in such a fuckin bad way that it is mere synonymous with
some miraculous stick to melt my sorrows or to allow me to run on water...
pity myself..pity the world

SG said...

Nice post. For some unknown reason, couple of Kannadasan lines comes to my mind:

Naan naathigan anane avan bayapadavillai
Naan aathigan anane avan agappadavillai

(I became an athiest but He was not afraid of me; I became a believer but I could not find Him)

Srivats said...

whether God exists or not thats secondary its the belief about his existance thats the question. Even if god is sitting next to u and u wont believe he is then whats the point, Jeasus raised his hands to the blind man and asked " Do you believe I can cure you" to which he said yes " so it be done unto you according to your belief" said jeasus.

Secondly I understand the whole quota system which u are mentioning for I am also a victim of one. But u know what the struggles should only make us stronger, the case religion or quote systems doesnot anywhere related to the quest of god, for he/she lies inside us not outside.

and I second Rachana's words, very true , Everthing happens only for a reason!

buckingfastard said...

blame it on NTPC and govt....same happnd in out college 2...actually god doesnt hates us....he pities us...so has occasional fun on our expense wen he is bored!!

Insignia said...

sion wrote about the reservation too. It was all created by some group of people some time ago, maybe for genuine reasons.
People are misusing it. They are to blame

Why blame God? And we people have created such a deviated concept of God that God might sure be confused about what He really is!!

Blame game!! You are angry because that guy got a job, but would you blame him entirely too? He has just taken advantage of the reservation policy.

The society and the ignorant and selfish people are to be blamed.

Shalini said...

Well...I am an atheist. So, when it comes to blame game, I blame the people and those "believers" for making this exist.
I totally agree on the filthy hypocrites thingy. For one thing, they believe that God treats everybody as equal and with the same mind, they believe that the supposed "Indian Culture" should be divided into castes. Bah..

priyadharshini said...

Even im an atheist. Basically we cannot blame anyone for the situation around us. I think wats better to do is to do the best we can to change the world to a better place to live in. If something is not right we gotta try to make it right rather than finding the source of the wrong & blaming it.

Mohanraj said...

Its always better to be an atheist. this endless discussion abt god is always frustrating :P

Bharathi said...

Yeah i read your suggested post. I liked it a lot.
As I said early in my posts, I am not a theist. I am neither atheist. At the moment I am agnostic. I too dont believe in begging God to save us. My suggestion is not to blame the God as it is not logical. I would like you to blame those who created God and uses people's ignorance for their selfish needs like the Swamgols in the post. I would also suggest blaming people for their ignorances. Isnt their ignorance because of their selfishness to gain undue benefit from GOd to overtake their fellow travellers?